XTC white?

Hi Yall
About to purchase 600ft roll of XTC white. Any opinions on this rope? Does it stiffen up alot? Friction hitches work well?

My original preference was safety blue but XTC white is $160 cheaper is Aus.
Cheers

It appears to have the same spec as Spearmint and XTC Plus minus the dye. My 150 ft. XTC Spearmint has never disappointed me, it's a good quality 16-strand rope.

Before you invest in 600 ft. it might be wise to buy a shorter length and climb on it to make sure you like it.
-moss

It's a good rope. I used red candy stripe. I did get a bad spool once- the rope bulged in spots (also called hemoraging). I had to return a few hanks. But I used it for years and the hanks were replaced at no charge. You'll find bulges quick enough it you get a bad run- your friction hitch will come to a halt. I don't think I was in any danger however.

I went back to the basic white Safety Blue at my school. I miss the red candy stripe however. Red is my favorite color.

The plain white color is a little stiffer than the other colored versions of this rope. I don't know why it is. I've spliced a lot of XTC and I always have to pull harder to bury the plain white. If you are used to Spearmint or Red/white versions...I'd stick with that. If you don't mind a rope that is just a hair stiffer, then go for it. $160 is a lot!

love
nick

Hi Nick
I have bought the rope and agree it is a little stiffer.
On a side track (sorry)I have been told that splicing 'old' rope, as in not brand new rope is a total no no. The fibers have been stretched and therefore the splice will not be certified.
I can understand why a company would not splice a used rope but can you tell me the science on why its not done.
Will the stretched fibres not hold sufficient friction in the splice?
Would you climb on a not new rope splice that you knew the history of?
Forgive my ignorance and thanks for all your answers.
Cheers

Hi Nick
I have bought the rope and agree it is a little stiffer.
On a side track (sorry)I have been told that splicing 'old' rope, as in not brand new rope is a total no no. The fibers have been stretched and therefore the splice will not be certified.
I can understand why a company would not splice a used rope but can you tell me the science on why its not done.
Will the stretched fibres not hold sufficient friction in the splice?
Would you climb on a not new rope splice that you knew the history of?
Forgive my ignorance and thanks for all your answers.
Cheers

ziontree wrote:

Hi Nick
I have bought the rope and agree it is a little stiffer.
On a side track (sorry)I have been told that splicing 'old' rope, as in not brand new rope is a total no no. The fibers have been stretched and therefore the splice will not be certified.
I can understand why a company would not splice a used rope but can you tell me the science on why its not done.
Will the stretched fibres not hold sufficient friction in the splice?
Would you climb on a not new rope splice that you knew the history of?
Forgive my ignorance and thanks for all your answers.
Cheers

Zion- \"used\" splices are fine. It is not a matter of certification...it is merely a matter of convenience. Splicing used rope is very difficult. I always recommend that people learning to splice only splice NEW rope. With practice, one can develop techniques that make the splicing of used ropes more manageable, but for the average splicer, it is not worth the hassle.

The used fibers will hold the splice together just fine. One could argue that the splice will hold even BETTER because there is more friction on used fibers than on new fibers! As a matter of practice, I don't like climbing on any rope that I don't know the history of. I wouldn't climb on the splice only if it's simply a bad splice. Whether or not it was new makes no difference to me.

What do you mean by \"certified?\" There is no over-seeing body that will certify a splice or a splicer. Some manufacturers will \"certify\" a splicer- basically saying that this person has created A splice in the last year that meets our minimum strength requirements- but it by no means is an approval for all splices created by that person.

Keep the questions coming!

love
nick

ziontree wrote:

Hi Nick
I have bought the rope and agree it is a little stiffer.
On a side track (sorry)I have been told that splicing 'old' rope, as in not brand new rope is a total no no. The fibers have been stretched and therefore the splice will not be certified.
I can understand why a company would not splice a used rope but can you tell me the science on why its not done.
Will the stretched fibres not hold sufficient friction in the splice?
Would you climb on a not new rope splice that you knew the history of?
Forgive my ignorance and thanks for all your answers.
Cheers

Zion- \"used\" splices are fine. It is not a matter of certification...it is merely a matter of convenience. Splicing used rope is very difficult. I always recommend that people learning to splice only splice NEW rope. With practice, one can develop techniques that make the splicing of used ropes more manageable, but for the average splicer, it is not worth the hassle.

The used fibers will hold the splice together just fine. One could argue that the splice will hold even BETTER because there is more friction on used fibers than on new fibers! As a matter of practice, I don't like climbing on any rope that I don't know the history of. I wouldn't climb on the splice only if it's simply a bad splice. Whether or not it was new makes no difference to me.

What do you mean by \"certified?\" There is no over-seeing body that will certify a splice or a splicer. Some manufacturers will \"certify\" a splicer- basically saying that this person has created A splice in the last year that meets our minimum strength requirements- but it by no means is an approval for all splices created by that person.

Keep the questions coming!

love
nick